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    NickC
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    It seems that Minim doesn't block 3rd party scripts, images, etc. once you add an item to the exceptions list, despite having ALL 3rd party elements blocked.
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    Despite these settings being enabled, as soon as I add a website to the exceptions list to unblock 3rd party images, for example, all other items get loaded as well, including 3rd party JS and other crap.
    From my understanding this is clearly NOT the behaviour expected with these settings.

    Could you please look into this?

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      As can be seen in Inspector as well, despite the settings, the resources get loaded (not from Cache).
      Screenshot 2023-03-02 at 11.57.32 AM.png

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        SweetP
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        Hi @NickC,
        try adding the parent domain investors.com to the exception list

        ~
        Russell
        SweetPProductions.com

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          Hi @NickC,
          try adding the parent domain investors.com to the exception list

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          @SweetP Nope. Still won't work properly. I'm pretty sure it's a bug.
          As soon as I add the 2 exceptions all resources get loaded, even if JavaScript is disabled.

          Screenshot 2023-03-05 at 4.17.56 PM.png

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            SweetP
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            #5

            ok, thanks.
            Apple has added a bunch of other types we can now block. (not sure exactly when this happened)
            With some luck these new types will fix the issues you are seeing

            Ill add them into v4 and hopefully get this released this coming week

            ~
            Russell
            SweetPProductions.com

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            • SweetPS SweetP

              ok, thanks.
              Apple has added a bunch of other types we can now block. (not sure exactly when this happened)
              With some luck these new types will fix the issues you are seeing

              Ill add them into v4 and hopefully get this released this coming week

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              @SweetP Awesome! Looking forward to testing out the updated version as soon as it comes out.

              As I said in my AppStore review, I love the app and it’s granularity. You brought something that was really missing from the AppStore options and made Safari, at least for me, as good as Firefox/Chrome with uBlock Origin enabled.

              Have a productive week ahead, Russell.

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                SweetP
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                Thanks
                It’s not the prettiest, and perhaps needs a little more polish to make it more user friendly. But that will have to wait for another update 😊

                ~
                Russell
                SweetPProductions.com

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                  SweetP
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                  Hi @NickC, ive just released v4.0 on my website. the App Store version should hopefully be available after review by Apple later today or tomorrow.

                  🙂

                  ~
                  Russell
                  SweetPProductions.com

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                  • SweetPS SweetP

                    Hi @NickC, ive just released v4.0 on my website. the App Store version should hopefully be available after review by Apple later today or tomorrow.

                    🙂

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                    @SweetP I've tried it on another laptop with the fresh v4 from the website. I love the new types and control it allows.

                    Sadly, the bug still seems to happen. As soon as I add the 2 exceptions (for which I've disabled all types except the document), the page loads everything from 3rd party domains, which is weird.

                    Maybe the bug is that it ignores the exceptions lists settings for 3rd party types altogether?

                    Screenshot 2023-03-08 at 7.19.07 PM.png

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                      SweetP
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                      Hmm,
                      Ok maybe the way I am
                      Generating the rules is causing the issue. I’ll have another look tonight

                      ~
                      Russell
                      SweetPProductions.com

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                        SweetP
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                        @NickC, ive just released v4.0.1 with a rewritten rule engine which should fix the the issue you are seeing
                        🙂

                        ~
                        Russell
                        SweetPProductions.com

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                          @NickC, ive just released v4.0.1 with a rewritten rule engine which should fix the the issue you are seeing
                          🙂

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                          @SweetP OMG, it works!! You got yourself a fan.

                          Cannot wait for the AppStore version to update and have this rolled out to all my devices. 🤠

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                            SweetP
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                            perfect!
                            thanks for being persistent
                            🙂

                            The App Store version should be available later today or tomorrow

                            ~
                            Russell
                            SweetPProductions.com

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                              perfect!
                              thanks for being persistent
                              🙂

                              The App Store version should be available later today or tomorrow

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                              @SweetP And thank you for the quick fix.

                              As a side note, does the exceptions list enforce subdomains or just the main domain?
                              (i.e. research.investors.com vs investors.com)

                              From what I could tell, if I add just the subdomain (research.investors.com) to the exceptions list, other subdomains (myibd.investors.com, auth.investors.com, etc.) from that main domain get whitelisted as well. Is this a Safari API limitation?

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                                SweetP
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                                If you add an exception to a top level domain, it will also apply to all subdomains. To override that you need to also add an exception to any subdomains you want different settings for

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                                Russell
                                SweetPProductions.com

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                                  SweetP
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                                  Subdomain exceptions should only apply to that particular subdomain… and also any sub sub domains (if that makes sense)

                                  ~
                                  Russell
                                  SweetPProductions.com

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                                  • SweetPS SweetP

                                    If you add an exception to a top level domain, it will also apply to all subdomains. To override that you need to also add an exception to any subdomains you want different settings for

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                                    @SweetP yeah, but now if I add just the subdomain research.investors.com for example, the other subdomains from investors.com get somehow to load JS and what I selected for the research.investors.com subdomain. The root domain doesn’t have a exception added. That is, I just have 1 rule, for the subdomain research.

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                                      Subdomain exceptions should only apply to that particular subdomain… and also any sub sub domains (if that makes sense)

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                                      @SweetP yes, I would think so. But currently it loads other subdomains that are at the same level as it is. Like auth.investors.com gets to load stuff with only the 1 rule added for research.investors.com. 😵

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                                        SweetP
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                                        Odd,
                                        I’ll have a look tonight. But I think my rules are good…

                                        ~
                                        Russell
                                        SweetPProductions.com

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                                        • SweetPS SweetP

                                          Odd,
                                          I’ll have a look tonight. But I think my rules are good…

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                                          NickC
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                                          @SweetP This is what I mean; I think it's more clear via a screenshot than what I wrote. 🙂
                                          Subdomains shop., services., myidb., and www. all get to load JS.

                                          Could it be a Safari limitation?

                                          Screenshot 2023-03-09 at 5.16.50 PM.png

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