Cookie, Safari and El Capitan
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Hi,
When reading this forum post it looks like 4.5.2 is supposed to solve all problems. Not in my case. Cookie keeps quitting spontaneously, as soon as i use the periodic auto delete of certain cookies (Every: X minutes when Browser is Open).What could be special in my settings?
I'm on El Capitan (10.11.1) with Cookies 4.5.2.
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Hi there.
I am using cookie 4.5.2 from the apple store on an el captain system.
So cookie won't start since the 'update'.
Who can help ??
Greetings from Germany.... Cheers -
All virtues of Cookie app have been restored !!
Under OS X Yosemite I loved the Cookie app, and put a lot of work and finetuning into my favorites and the whitelist. It worked flawlessly, and I was really impressed !
**Enter OS X El Capitan **... and suddenly the Cookie app didn't work any more. The next upgrade of the Cookie app didn't help - it simply wouldn't remove any non-favorite cookies from Safari. I am sure that Apple's decision to sandbox Safari was based on good arguments - but certainly not good to the Cookie app. It was depressing. Now I had to manually remove the cookies from Safari, not a good solution, because there are also a lot of useful cookies, who make life easier - and they are removed too, when you remove all cookies from Safari ( I have found it too time-consuming to manually try to separate the good cookies from the bad ones and only remove all the non-wanted cookies from Safari, so I have mostly just pressed the delete-button and removed ALL cookies, both the good and the bad ones ... )
Now i've installed Cookie 4.5.4 - and to my great joy I have found, that **it works really good ! **
Well, Cookie 4.5.4 only removes the non-favorite cookies from Safari, when I quit the browser - it will not make any live removal every 30 minutes (if I have chosen this in the preferences) from Safari when it is running, even if I have selected this in the preferences. Strange. But I can live with this - because the really important thing is, that all non-favorite cookies are wiped out of Safari, when I quit the browser - and all the favorite cookies are retained. BRAVO !!
I would very much appreciate some kind of advice on what to choose in the preferences:
https://sweetpproductions.com/support/images/smilies/heart.gif Should you choose "Always choose browser extensions as favorites" - or not ?
https://sweetpproductions.com/support/images/smilies/shy.gif Should you choose to remove Favicons, webpage previews, form values and downloads - or not ?
https://sweetpproductions.com/support/images/smilies/exclamation.gif Should you remove unwanted data at browser quit - or at login ??
https://sweetpproductions.com/support/images/smilies/heart.gif Is it smart to remove non-favorites every - let's say - 30 minutes, while the browser is running - or not at all ?? Google is not happy with removal of their cookies ...The answer to these question will make it possible to a layperson like me to fully take command over the wonderful Cookie app. I therefor propose, that you add this advice into the new Cookie version 5 app.
Lovely pictures of you, Mr Qwirk, from Bamberg in Germany.
With the friendliest greetings from Denmark - Jens
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Thanks Jens,
I travel to Europe every summer to work at street festivals. I actually came and spent a week busking in the shopping street in Copenhagen a few years back, just to see what it was like. I may stop in again this coming Summer for a week or two. Copenhagen is a great city, and i found some really great bbq Salmon in a small Turkish? restaurant in the cool part of town. (i forget the name of the area). Im just down near Hamburg at the moment spending Xmas here with my partner's family.back to code:
Ill check through my code in v4.5.4, the Timer should be working.
The settings i use in Cookie are:
*Always choose browser extensions as favourites - YES (its too east to easily reset any extensions you may have)
*Favicons, webpage previews, form values and downloads - I keep only Form values (i find them handy to keep around when filling out online forms)
*I think its fine to remove data on Browser Quit, and also at Login (as a backup)
*I also think its maybe overkill to remove non-Favs while your Browser is open, as sometimes do require cookies to browse effectively. -
Thank you, Mr. Qwirk for advice on settings in the Cookie app ! Please, please, please use this advice in Cookie 5. A layperson like me didn't know, what a favicon is (but I could find an explanation in Wikipedia).
Now I feel, that I am fully in command of the Cookie app !
Copenhagen is really nice in summer !!
And Germany is full of nice places - the country does not - besides Berlin (the hottest town of the continent) - have the reputation as France or Italy, but you should follow your german partner to really enjoy this country. The Hamburg-region is cold, foggy and humid during winter - but there is really a lot of atmosphere at the christmas markets ! Hamburg has a lot of interesting places, Hamburg-Ottensen e.g. or Hamburg-Harburg with old parts of the port, who are being restored. At St. Pauli Landungsbrücke you have a terrific view of the port, and quite often the huge Queen Mary II will be there. - In springtime the area "Altes Land" (the old country) is full of blossoming apple trees along the river Elbe - just outside the Airbus factory. You should also visit the fishmarket in Hamburg. Lots of atmosphere !!
Some germans are over-correct, formal and somewhat cold and stiff - but lots of germans are the very opposite, like the street artists in Bamberg: Informal and friendly. You will immediately get in contact with these people.
Use these chances to become aqainted with Germany !!
With the friendliest greetings from Denmark - the island of Bornholm in the middle of the Baltic sea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bornholm - Jens
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What is the purpose of the whitelist and the blacklist ?
**It is easy to understand the importance of removing non-favorite cookies **and preserving the favorite cookies in the Cookie app. This is, of course, the central task of the program.
But what is the importance of adding unwanted cookies to the blacklist - cookies that you under all circumstances will remove as non-favorite? Will these cookies, who have been added to the blacklist, behave in another way, when the browser is running, and they haven’t been removed yet ?
And those favored cookies, who have been added to the whitelist, will they behave in another way compared to those favored cookies, wha haven’t been added to the whitelist ?
There is no explanation of this feature - the whitelist and the blacklist - in the Cookie app. Somewhere I have read, that one of the lists has been or will disappear in Cookie 5. I would strongly ask you to bring an explanation of the purpose of the whitelist and / or the blacklist in Cookie 5, so that all we laypersons will be able to take full command over this wonderful program.
With the friendliest greetings from Denmark,
Jens https://sweetpproductions.com/support/images/smilies/heart.gif
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What is the purpose of the whitelist and the blacklist ?
First of all Cookie4 manages cookies per domain, and the Whitelist/Blacklist give you an opportunity to be a lot more specific about which cookies you want to keep/delete.
first the Whitelist:
this is when you have a specific tracking cookie within a domain you want to keep. for example the NID Google cookie preserves login details. Many people want to stay logged into Gmail, so whitelisting the NID cookie (under the google domain) will keep them logged in.the Blacklist:
say for example you have a single cookie within a favorite domain you want deleted. (and you don't want to flag all similar named cookies as tracking cookies) then this is what the Blacklist is for.Cookie5 will have per-cookie favoriting, so the Whitelist/Blacklist is less relevant. (in fact the eBlacklist has been removed completely)
